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  • Sunking
    Solar Fanatic
    • Feb 2010
    • 23301

    #16
    Originally posted by scheek
    At 48 volt, do you think (8 /6volt in series) at 312 ah or about will do the job?
    That would give you roughly 3 Kwh/day usage.

    Yes. I did the calculator and that was very interesting. Since my demand is about half of Tuscon's where they needed 6000 wh, I need only 3000 or about. So I need about 8/100 or 9/100 watt panels. correct?

    This will throw me into the 80 amp mppt charger too. correct? [/QUOTE]No that is not enough panel wattage. You cannot compare Tuscon with Mississippi. I have already shown you what it will take to generate 3 Kwh/day of usable power. In Winter you have 3.5 Sun Hours, not 5.6 Sun Hours like Tuscon. Look at the Seattle numbers I used. To generate the same amount in Seattle as in Tuscon required 7500 watts vs 1800 watts in Tuscon.

    For you assuming you use a 25 amp or more MPPT Charge Controller you will need a 1200 watt panel array.

    I would suggest you look at 24 volts for your setup. At 24 volts you need.

    Panel Wattage = 1200 watts
    24 Volt Battery = 625 Amp Hours
    MPPT Charge Controller = 50 amps minimum. I would suggest you go with a 80 AMP CC as this will allow you to expand up to 2000 watt panels @ 24 volt battery, or 4000 watts @ 48 volts.
    MSEE, PE

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    • scheek
      Solar Fanatic
      • Sep 2009
      • 136

      #17
      Is it possible to stack (add later) more pure wave inverters. I'm looking at a 3000 watt by AIMS. For a few hundred more I can get a 5000 watt.

      Any suggestions?

      Thanks

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      • Sunking
        Solar Fanatic
        • Feb 2010
        • 23301

        #18
        The inverter size limitation is driven by the battery AH capacity and the voltage drop incurred due to internal resistance of a battery. For Flooded Lead Acid battery the maximum current draw you can take without significant voltage drop is C/8 where C = the battery Amp Hour Capacity. So if you have a 350 AH battery at 48 volts means you can draw about 45 amps or support a 48 volt x 45 amps = 2160 watt inverter.
        MSEE, PE

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        • scheek
          Solar Fanatic
          • Sep 2009
          • 136

          #19
          Remember we decided to go 24 volt /625 ah and leave extra head room for growth with the MPPT (80 amp) I was thinking the same for the inverter, but don't want to over do it.

          And I do have two questions in regards to backup generator. I assume it will by-pass the inverter when it is running?

          Will I have to have a separate 24 volt charger for it to charge the battery bank?

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          • Sunking
            Solar Fanatic
            • Feb 2010
            • 23301

            #20
            Originally posted by scheek
            Remember we decided to go 24 volt /625 ah and leave extra head room for growth with the MPPT (80 amp) I was thinking the same for the inverter, but don't want to over do it.
            OK that means the largest inverter total you can handle is [625/8] x 24 volts = 1875 watts. Less than my previous example.

            And I do have two questions in regards to backup generator. I assume it will by-pass the inverter when it is running?

            Will I have to have a separate 24 volt charger for it to charge the battery bank? [/QUOTE]No the generator does not bypass the inverter. the Generator runs a battery charger that is connected to the batteries.
            MSEE, PE

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            • scheek
              Solar Fanatic
              • Sep 2009
              • 136

              #21
              I don't think the 24 will get where I want unless I get bigger batteries...and I recall you saying a 120 watt panel will only support a 450 ah battery. I do have 120 panels. I said 100 earlier. My mistake.

              Maybe using 12 /450 ah batteries will get me closer to 2500-2700 watts.

              I got some thinking to do now.

              One more question. Say I use a 2000 watt inverter and I turn everything on which demands 3000 watts, I suppose the breaker will flip. right? At that point will the generator come on with more additional voltage or is it limited to the inverter size?

              Thanks

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