About to buy an AGM battery bank. Anything new or economical I should consider?
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Wow, that was quick, sir. You are on point! A tube of what? Some dielectric grease or something? EDIT- I see, thanks! -
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Can I oversize them in case I decide to put a large inverter in down the line? IE, can I use 2/0 cables with copper terminals?
Also, I think I'm going to have to go back to Lifeline 2Vs. Despite the sun xtender line being built for solar, they aren't warranted for mobile use. With the Lifelines, I get 1 year full, plus a 5 year pro-rated. I'm trying to decide on an alternator charging solution. I had the Samlex ACR-160 in my old rig. This provides whatever the alternator is producing, but would a DC DC charger be smarter? They're about 3 to 4 times as expensive, but then I'm not taxing the alternator as hard, and getting a constant charge (I would go with a 60A) in my case. I could also use it for a lithium bank if that ever becomes feasible. How many amps are the Lifeline AGMs capable of absorbing do you think?Last edited by Withalligators; 04-19-2018, 05:51 PM.Leave a comment:
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Copy that. Never solder terminals again. What about the inter-cell cables, what gauge should I use? I can probably order premade ones, right?Leave a comment:
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You got it backwards. Non equal lengths compounds the problem for PARALLEL batteries you idiot. You are on my radar and a target. You are also on the moderators radar and other engineers ready to attack you. Understand? Now go away.
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So to sum up - your claim that "If the cable lengths are asymmetrical from the midpoint to both end points, there will be a voltage imbalance across the batteries" in series strings is incorrect.
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If others choose to teach sloppy wiring practices and deal with the fall out later, that is their decision and they can deal with the fallout.Last edited by jflorey2; 04-04-2018, 01:27 PM.Leave a comment:
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Stick with properly compressed compression terminals using approved tooling and terminals. A properly terminated terminal is stronger the the wire it is connected to and the extreme pressures homogenize the conductors effectively weld them electrically for the lowest resistance possible. So I have no issue over sizing cables. But with any of them larger than 6 AWG, have a Marine, Cable Shop, electrician, or buy terminated cables. Consumers just do not have the tooling and experience.
OK off my soap box.
What I do suggest for all RV users out there is use Marine Rated Cable and Devices. To size your wiring needs use the following table 3% column. Example if you have a 50 amp fuse and 1-way distance will require 4 AWG.
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Excellent info. Thanks! You guys are super helpful and I appreciate it.Leave a comment:
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a) wicks solder up the cable in an uncontrolled manner
b) the heat of soldering damages the insulation
c) a properly crimped connector is gas tight, and has no room between the strands to wick solder into the joint
d) if a connector relies on solder, under high amps, the solder can melt and let the wire fall out
Oh, I've been wondering this, can the cables connecting the batteries in series be different lengths?
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It depends. If the cable lengths are symmetrical from the midpoint to both end points, It will be OK. If the cable lengths are asymmetrical from the midpoint to both end points, there will be a voltage imbalance across the batteries. Keep it as symmetrical as possible and the shortest possible lengths best results.
Continue giving erroneous information, and you get longer vacations.Leave a comment:
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Many people will undersize the battery bank because they do not develop an energy usage profile before building the system. By the time they realize the mistake, they will be economically locked into a battery bank voltage. Their only economical option will be to expand the battery bank by going to a series-parallel battery bank.
Over the years I have tried to get people to develop energy usage profiles before building but the success rate is not very good. Many either cannot do the math or they choose to follow somebody else that does not understand the value of an energy usage profile.
By teaching people to be uniform with series interconnect cables, I am teaching them a practice that can benefit them later.
If others choose to teach sloppy wiring practices and deal with the fall out later, that is their decision and they can deal with the fallout.
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It depends. If the cable lengths are symmetrical from the midpoint to both end points, It will be OK. If the cable lengths are asymmetrical from the midpoint to both end points, there will be a voltage imbalance across the batteries. Keep it as symmetrical as possible and the shortest possible lengths best results.
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