Aquion goes bankrupt

[Sundetective]

Changhong only put out a
Nickel Iron Batteries Operation Manual every so many years.

The 2008 version (still available on the Net)
gets down on the Electrolyte pretty good.

Depends on the temperature.
They have carbon parameters but seem most concerned with the quantity of KOH
as in Plenty95.

Mike's 42 Cells are the King of the fleet at
17.2 Liters of Electrolyte each.

800's are even more than the 1000's.
The devils.

Well over 500 pounds US
of KOH
at typical
North American temperatures.

Almost 29,000 grams of LiOH for maximum performance is what I'm talkin about.

The NiFe dealers in the USA never talked anything other than standard 90% KOH for a fact.

Otherwise you need a tractor trailer full of
nickels for the Nickelodeon
just to buy the KOH.

Then we get to the real money.
The LiOH.

Also Mike has been prudent on his claims.
He actually has to manhandle 130 pounds each.
Wet weight.

[littleharbor]

battery grade KoH is much more rare than soap or biodiesel grade. And barely available in Kalifornia. Lab grad is what meth labs use.

If they weren't so sketchy you could hit up the Tweakers and find out where they get it. They seem to be everywhere these days.

[LLB]

Hopefully this is helpful.

Marketing terms muck things up sometimes. Brands will use trade names, as in ReagentPLUS. There really is no such thing as "Food Grade", officially that is. Have you heard of Pharmaceutical grade, likewise and I used the term all the time, both of those are the same, they are "USP" grade meaning they meet U.S. Pharmacopoeia standards. Basically can be used to make drugs and human consumption. When dealing with "food grade" be careful a manufacturer could mean animal feed if their industry is strictly agriculture. A dirty trick yes, but simply marketing to charge a premium. caveat emptor


Listed Alphabetically, not purity (see below)

AR - The standard Mallinckrodt grade of analytical reagents; suitable for laboratory and general use.
If the reagent also meets the requirements of the American Chemical Society Committee on Analytical Reagent, it will be denoted as an AR (ACS) reagent. (MBI trademark)

Reagent A.C.S. - This designates a high quality chemical for laboratory use.
The abbreviation "A.C.S.," means the chemical meets the specifications of the American Chemical Society. A Certificate of Analysis is available upon request.

CP (Chemically Pure) - Products of purity suitable for use in general applications.

FCC - Products that meet the requirements of the Food Chemical Codex.

Guaranteed Reagent (GR) - Suitable for use in analytical chemistry, products meet or exceed American Chemical Society (ACS) requirements where applicable. (EMD trademark)

Lab Grade - A line of solvents suitable for histology methods and general laboratory applications.

NF - Chemicals that meet the requirements of the National Formulary. The USP and the NF (USP

[Sundetective]

They have Tech Grade,
ACS Reagent Grade,
Lab Grade, etc.
Potassium Hydroxide
but the big question is
did Changhong or any of the
USA Suppliers
ever have such expensive stuff ?
The devils.

How many pounds are we talking about ?

The Lithium Hydroxide was always a problem child.

That's why the Hustler's made up their own NiFe

Instruction Manuals and reduced the

LiOH formula to help make sales.

There is still a little original Changhong Manual

info on the Net if you hurry up and grabs it.


Bill Blake

[Sunking]

Mike not sure if this applies to KOH or not, but food grade chemicals are usually cleaner and purer than lab grade. Example I know NaOH lab grade contains heavy metals and 97% pure. Food Grade has no toxins and 99% pure. You might check with Fisher Scientific and Sigma Aldrich. Worth a try anyway. Just trying to help you out.

[Mike90250]

battery grade KoH is much more rare than soap or biodiesel grade. And barely available in Kalifornia. Lab grad is what meth labs use.

[Sundetective]

Duda Diesel

has Tons of KOH.

I'm thinking the Lithium Hydroxide might be the
800 pound gorilla.

At 20 grams per Liter of Electrolyte it really adds up.

Some like

'Changhong and The Electric Indian'

found that at 40 grams per liter
things got even better.
The devils.

A peek at the Excell Technology
version of what they claim is
30 year NiFe Electrolyte was interesting.
The devils.


Bill Blake

[Sunking]

Mike perhaps I am overlooking something but Potassium Hydroxide is readily available. You can even buy it on Amazon. Years ago when I was a nut job and made my own diesel fuel we bought it from local chemical supply house. I know a lot of craft folks buy food grade KOH in bulk to make soap. 32 pounds for $40 seems to be the going rate.

[Sundetective]

Mike,

Haven't looked into Battery Technology in a good while.

Things sound kind of haggard right now but I'm sure we can find you some chemicals.
The sun will shine again.

Sometimes another hobby or interest will have
a better angle of the dangle
on things.

Will snoop around for a price or two for you.


Bill Blake

[Mike90250]

I've currently got a pallet full of electrolyte mix in the shop, that will be going into the batteries this summer. I figure about a week to do the swap out, taking every battery out of the shed, dumping it, reinstall, and refill. Then I should be good for more years. I'm doing the change out proactively, my old bones are not going to like lifting 90# batteries, inverting them with out sloshing lye all over myself, and then reinstall. I'll like it less in 10 more years, when it's time to do again.
And if John D is retiring, I hope he hands off the biz to somebody that will keep it going. Without a contact, I can't buy chemicals, as they are precursor to Meth !! Dam junkies ruining life for everyone else. Can't even buy 3 weeks of sudaphed, because I might mix it up into something.

[Sundetective]

No.

John D'Angelo from BeUtilityFree in Colorado.

The 2nd white-ie to hustle Chinese NiFe in America.
He thinks he's the first.

Brandon Williams is the run em 95% dead
(you'll be alright chump)
tap dance
NiFe hustler who
slit John's throat at
Rip Off Reports
for the dollar.
He got his start with John.

Though it may be hard to tell ole John and I
talked a whole lot behind the scenes over the years.
I taught da man the game.

If I was going to buy something it would be from his crazy old self.
He never deliberately lied to hurt people.

I see Mike gave a Report on his $40 Grand in
NiFe Cells last summer over at the Wind Sun Forum.

He still hadn't changed the Electrolyte yet.

Gave a complete rundown of what a monumental job it was going to be.

Sounds like the nasty things held up pretty
darn good so far !

Now we need to hear from my Main Man
Hawaii 24.

AHI or die.
It no Lie.

Pee on Trojan.

[Sunking]

Me knows of a John in DFW works in Real Estate. Same guy?

[Sundetective]

It won't be me trying anything new.
I have 2 off-grid buildings to mess with
once in a while but my living off-grid days are over.
Unfortunately.

The Lead Acid I use
last way more than rated
charging dem cool and slow.

The equipment knows when to throw the juice to the
bad hammers for maintenance.

I don't have to know anything which is how
I Likes it.

I see ole 'Diamond' John Mario D'Angelo was cryin
about me over at GreenPowerTalk
a while back
about not having any
'skin in the NiFe game'.

My set of NiFe Cells dates back before John's time.
Built in Russia and brought in by the
US Army from England.

Ole John and the Energy / Survival Man from
WEST TEXAS
have brought a Lot of Laughter in their time.

I was afraid the guys I was visiting at the
VA Hospital were going to have heart attacks
when I visited.

John D'Angelo and Brandon Williams

were masterfully baited into

expanding their Feud at

Rip Off Reports.

Bigtime.

It was beautiful.

A lot remains though someone paid out money to get some of it removed.

[Sunking]

At 10 bucks a gallon you will see it clearly someday.

Look up adjunct.

It's a cool word.

Then look up primary.

Get back to me someday when you can stop laughing.

Laughing is good for you.
Enjoy.

I get the joke, I am laughing with you, not at you.

[Sundetective]

At 10 bucks a gallon you will see it clearly someday.

Look up adjunct.

It's a cool word.

Then look up primary.

Get back to me someday when you can stop laughing.

Laughing is good for you.
Enjoy.