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How to set up a Solar system for a VW Bus or Van to charge Lime, Birds Electric Scooters off grid.
Hello!
I hope you can Gide me towards the light with my issue...
I want to buy a VW T2 bus for log time travel "van life" although I do not consider it to be "Van life" but who cares about that.
So I want to come up with a Solar set up to charge the electric Scooters inside the WV bus Van and then this set up would be the one I will use for that very long trip.
Why?
Well because here I can buy a VW bus in very good shape for the equivalent of US$3100 and charging 10 scooters for 30 days I can make in my area $920. So it would be a great opportunity to finance the VW bus, get the money to pay back for it, pay back the solar system and then make money for the VW bus motor home conversion and also save money for the trip.
BUT. I live in an apartment, fourth floor no lift, this scooters actually weight a lot, so to bring 10 up stairs and then 10 down is out of the question, although the other more important issue is that I also don't have room on my tiny studio for them, not even 2 scooters.
I do not have any way to plug an extension cord to the VW.
The bus would be parked outside in the street with the scooters charging inside over night from 10pm to 6am
That is why I can not do it with a gas generator, they are too loud, need ventilation.
I have read people doing this with a VAN and a gas generator, but parked on their property.
Charging an electric scooter from Lime Bird and similar electric Scooter.
-They supposedly take 5hours to charge when fully discharged. People report that usually many are around 50% to even 80% discharged when they "harvest them"
-They supposedly consume around 80 watt each when charging.
-They supposedly have a battery of 7800mha each. At least the Xiaomi Mi m365 scooter has.
-The scooter charger delivers 12v at 2a and have an input of 220v
+ I found the Segway - ES4 KickScooter Ninebot This is the one LIME uses. I attach a screenshot of the the spec found in the manual. the ES4 is the most powerful of the scooters, the one with 374Wh battery.
I would round numbers of the charger as the one I wrote above output 80 W and output current to 2a can take up to 7 hours for charging, when fully drained.
*** I need a set up with batteries that can and must be located in the Living, sleeping area of the VW bus, so they need to be the type that do not create any type of toxic fumes.
In the future the set up needs to feed a Freezer, a TV, many USB charger and 12V chargers, cameras, laptop, tablet, cellphones, drones etc with out any problem. I really think that consumption should be more than what 10 or 15 electric scooter charging must consume but at the moment don't have the knowledge to know if this is true.
Usually a VW bus big solar set up is around 300watts of solar panels with an inverter . But I have no idea if this typical basic set up can charge at least 10 scooters.
That is were I get lost because I do not know what type of math do I need to do to figure out the set up.
Ideally I would like to charge more than 10 scooters, around 15.
But again here is were I get lost
The only thing I know about the scooter charging is that people that have done or do this work, job, say the consumption of charging each scooter is so low that they kind of don't calculate it. is something like $10 to $15 cents each charge on the electrical bill consumption.
Thanks in advance
Scooter Battery and charger Specs down here, in the attachment.
Hello!
I hope you can Gide me towards the light with my issue...
I want to buy a VW T2 bus for log time travel "van life" although I do not consider it to be "Van life" but who cares about that.
So I want to come up with a Solar set up to charge the electric Scooters inside the WV bus Van and then this set up would be the one I will use for that very long trip.
Why?
Well because here I can buy a VW bus in very good shape for the equivalent of US$3100 and charging 10 scooters for 30 days I can make in my area $920. So it would be a great opportunity to finance the VW bus, get the money to pay back for it, pay back the solar system and then make money for the VW bus motor home conversion and also save money for the trip.
BUT. I live in an apartment, fourth floor no lift, this scooters actually weight a lot, so to bring 10 up stairs and then 10 down is out of the question, although the other more important issue is that I also don't have room on my tiny studio for them, not even 2 scooters.
I do not have any way to plug an extension cord to the VW.
The bus would be parked outside in the street with the scooters charging inside over night from 10pm to 6am
That is why I can not do it with a gas generator, they are too loud, need ventilation.
I have read people doing this with a VAN and a gas generator, but parked on their property.
Charging an electric scooter from Lime Bird and similar electric Scooter.
-They supposedly take 5hours to charge when fully discharged. People report that usually many are around 50% to even 80% discharged when they "harvest them"
-They supposedly consume around 80 watt each when charging.
-They supposedly have a battery of 7800mha each. At least the Xiaomi Mi m365 scooter has.
-The scooter charger delivers 12v at 2a and have an input of 220v
+ I found the Segway - ES4 KickScooter Ninebot This is the one LIME uses. I attach a screenshot of the the spec found in the manual. the ES4 is the most powerful of the scooters, the one with 374Wh battery.
I would round numbers of the charger as the one I wrote above output 80 W and output current to 2a can take up to 7 hours for charging, when fully drained.
*** I need a set up with batteries that can and must be located in the Living, sleeping area of the VW bus, so they need to be the type that do not create any type of toxic fumes.
In the future the set up needs to feed a Freezer, a TV, many USB charger and 12V chargers, cameras, laptop, tablet, cellphones, drones etc with out any problem. I really think that consumption should be more than what 10 or 15 electric scooter charging must consume but at the moment don't have the knowledge to know if this is true.
Usually a VW bus big solar set up is around 300watts of solar panels with an inverter . But I have no idea if this typical basic set up can charge at least 10 scooters.
That is were I get lost because I do not know what type of math do I need to do to figure out the set up.
Ideally I would like to charge more than 10 scooters, around 15.
But again here is were I get lost
The only thing I know about the scooter charging is that people that have done or do this work, job, say the consumption of charging each scooter is so low that they kind of don't calculate it. is something like $10 to $15 cents each charge on the electrical bill consumption.
Thanks in advance
Scooter Battery and charger Specs down here, in the attachment.
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