Shed and yard flood lighting

[Laspher]

Just a question for future reference. What do you do with your old batteries? Just take them to any place that sells batteries?

[Sunking]

Just a question for future reference. What do you do with your old batteries? Just take them to any place that sells batteries?

Couple of things can be done.

1. Batteries have two prices, just like soda pop use to have two prices. Batteries come with a Core Charge just like soda pop in glass bottles. If you have the empty bottles you pay a lower price. If you do not have empty bottles you will pay a Deposit for new glass bottles. Same with batteries instead of calling it a Deposit, they call it Core Charges.

2. Take dead soldiers to a scrap metal recyclers that accepts batteries. That is where all batteries end up, even the ones that you trade in the stores for new ones.

My oldest memories of Soda Pop was a 12 oz bottle of Coke or Pepsi cost 11-cents with a return bottle, or 16-cents without a bottle. On weekends as kids we went to Trailer Parks and stole pop bottles. Trailer Park trash stored their bottles outside under their trailers. Some stores use to keep them outside in a fenced in area. At night we would hop or cut the fence and steal them by truck loads.

[Mike90250]

here, old batteries are worth $11 cash for automotive sizes, more for larger ones.

[littleharbor]

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My oldest memories of Soda Pop was a 12 oz bottle of Coke or Pepsi cost 11-cents with a return bottle, or 16-cents without a bottle. On weekends as kids we went to Trailer Parks and stole pop bottles. Trailer Park trash stored their bottles outside under their trailers. Some stores use to keep them outside in a fenced in area. At night we would hop or cut the fence and steal them by truck loads. [/QUOTE]

We have to be the same age, DOB late 50's. Your soda bottle story sounds like a day in the life for myself at 8- 10 years old. Funny how a penny was really worth something back then, ( 11 cent sodas). Gas was 28 cents a gallon. I could fill my mini bike with gas for a quarter, or 5 empty soda bottles. Good times.

[Laspher]

Couple of things can be done.

1. Batteries have two prices, just like soda pop use to have two prices. Batteries come with a Core Charge just like soda pop in glass bottles. If you have the empty bottles you pay a lower price. If you do not have empty bottles you will pay a Deposit for new glass bottles. Same with batteries instead of calling it a Deposit, they call it Core Charges.

2. Take dead soldiers to a scrap metal recyclers that accepts batteries. That is where all batteries end up, even the ones that you trade in the stores for new ones.

My oldest memories of Soda Pop was a 12 oz bottle of Coke or Pepsi cost 11-cents with a return bottle, or 16-cents without a bottle. On weekends as kids we went to Trailer Parks and stole pop bottles. Trailer Park trash stored their bottles outside under their trailers. Some stores use to keep them outside in a fenced in area. At night we would hop or cut the fence and steal them by truck loads.

1. I didn't pay a core charge (yet anyway) on the UB12350 I just bought online at walmart.com just the 64.99 (unless the core charge is already included which would make the replacement battery even cheaper in a few years). I was looking for an item line on core charge and didn't see one.

2. Not sure I know of a place in town that recycles batteries, maybe nearby cities.

[Sunking]

1. I didn't pay a core charge (yet anyway) on the UB12350 I just bought online at walmart.com just the 64.99 (unless the core charge is already included which would make the replacement battery even cheaper in a few years). I was looking for an item line on core charge and didn't see one..

You paid it, it was invisible to you and included in the price. If you have cars, mechanics, and auto parts stores in your area, there is at least a repository. It is required by law. That is not to say batteries do not end up in the dump because they do. But any mechanic or autoparrts dealer is required to recycle batteries.

[Sunking]

We have to be the same age, DOB late 50's. Your soda bottle story sounds like a day in the life for myself at 8- 10 years old. Funny how a penny was really worth something back then, ( 11 cent sodas). Gas was 28 cents a gallon. I could fill my mini bike with gas for a quarter, or 5 empty soda bottles. Good times.

Close, we are both Baby Boomers. I have a couple of years on you. Life was simple in my developing years. We had to work, play outside, learn math and science, and disciplined. .

[Laspher]

You paid it, it was invisible to you and included in the price. If you have cars, mechanics, and auto parts stores in your area, there is at least a repository. It is required by law. That is not to say batteries do not end up in the dump because they do. But any mechanic or autoparrts dealer is required to recycle batteries.

64.99 for a deep cycle AGM with core charge included is pretty cheap then.

[Laspher]

So, quick update on this project. Shed is nearly finished with the construction phase. I was going to order the 100w kit i linked previously, then I got to the shipping fees. $140 for shipping on a $195 kit. Checked Amazon. Found same kit for only 50 in shipping. Found a similar Renogy kit for the same price and free shipping.

Amazon even gave me an option to put the whole thing into an amazon box. I checked it just because I want to see a 40"x 25" x 6" box with amazon stamped all over it. Free, so why not?

[SunEagle]

So, quick update on this project. Shed is nearly finished with the construction phase. I was going to order the 100w kit i linked previously, then I got to the shipping fees. $140 for shipping on a $195 kit. Checked Amazon. Found same kit for only 50 in shipping. Found a similar Renogy kit for the same price and free shipping.

Amazon even gave me an option to put the whole thing into an amazon box. I checked it just because I want to see a 40"x 25" x 6" box with amazon stamped all over it. Free, so why not?

Careful on how Amazon ships things. If they use UPS some of those drivers tend to drop kick the packages to your doorway.

[Laspher]

Careful on how Amazon ships things. If they use UPS some of those drivers tend to drop kick the packages to your doorway.

thus the extra box. I plan on giving a thorough inspection upon receipt. I am taking no chances on this, and will be ready to call and complain about damages if I find anything suspect.

[Laspher]

Got my Renogy kit delivered today by USPS (transfer from UPS). Packaging was in near-mint condition. Everything inside is in perfect condition. Will take it out later today and get a Voc check.

p.s. Amazon didn't give me the extra free box they said they would.

p.p.s. Cloudy skies, non-optimal angle, and some minor shade from a tree, got 20Voc. Rated 22.5Voc. I'd call that properly functional.

[Laspher]

Finally got a nice clear day and some free time. I set out the panel to get a better Voc reading--23V with a listed rating of 22.5V. Now I just wish I had my shed so I could set everything up.

[Laspher]

Ok, Question time. When it comes to 12v systems, is a connection to earth ground required? I've made a mockup of what I am currently planning for my wiring in this shed. As always, advice is welcome.


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[Laspher]

Sunking SunEagle, I think you guys would be one of the better to ask, any suggestions? (I realized I forgot to include the in-line fuse from the controller in the drawing)