Can I get some last minute advice before signing contract?

[Ampster]

........ That along with a poor electrical infrastructure to handle all them charging at night.
.......... By
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Poor infrastructure? Have you looked at the load charts from your Independent System Operator? At 7:45 this morning California had 44,000 MegaWatts of capacity versus 25,000 in demand according to the California Independent System Operator. I will try to find a chart for twenty four hours. Last time I looked at the duck curve the critical time where capacity does not exceed demand by much margin is from five or six in the evening to ten at night. After that demand drops off significantly. I don't think it is an infrastructure issue but a timing issue.

[SunEagle]

No worries there will probably plenty of new and used pickup trucks for sale in 2035 somewhere in the country. If people still want to drive ICE pickups, arbitrage will create a grey market.
I live on what many call the Left Coast but the free market still survives. I have had a $100 Cyber truck deposit with Tesla for almost two years with no delivery date in sight. I may be 80 before I take delivery. If I lose my license before then, I know my son in law would take the order off my hands.

Yes age does have a factor when it comes to owning an EV. That along with a poor electrical infrastructure to handle all them charging at night.

I fear that I will end up owning an ICE vehicle when I have to give up my license.

[Ampster]

I hope so. At least I can continue to pick the type of vehicle I want if I live past 2035. Which I hear is not the deal for those in CA.

No worries there will probably plenty of new and used pickup trucks for sale in 2035 somewhere in the country. If people still want to drive ICE pickups, arbitrage will create a grey market.
I live on what many call the Left Coast but the free market still survives. I have had a $100 Cyber truck deposit with Tesla for almost two years with no delivery date in sight. I may be 80 before I take delivery. If I lose my license before then, I know my son in law would take the order off my hands.

[bcroe]

I hope so. At least I can continue to pick the type of vehicle I want if I live past 2035. Which I hear is not the deal for those in CA.

When they stopped making the kind of vehicle owners wanted, many
of them just started driving trucks. Fossil fuel vehicles are never going
to completely disappear. I am still driving my 77. Bruce Roe

[SunEagle]

I just read that someone got one for MSRP because of a cancellation. I have heard that is rare because the dealers are marking them up way over MSRP. I am still waiting to hear how much more the infrastructure for V2H is going to cost.
In a few years there may be some used F150 Lightnings available by the time SunEagle 's pickup is ready to be replaced.

I hope so. At least I can continue to pick the type of vehicle I want if I live past 2035. Which I hear is not the deal for those in CA.

[Ampster]

get F150 lightning extended range, it has 130KWH with super charge, it can power your house when grid drop.

I just read that someone got one for MSRP because of a cancellation. I have heard that is rare because the dealers are marking them up way over MSRP. I am still waiting to hear how much more the infrastructure for V2H is going to cost.
In a few years there may be some used F150 Lightnings available by the time SunEagle 's pickup is ready to be replaced.

[SunEagle]

You get battery and a truck. Wait time to order is close for 2022. Cost under 60K

That cost may be for you but not here in Florida. What I have seen is closer to 80K and a very long wait.

[ktran1]

You get battery and a truck. Wait time to order is close for 2022. Cost under 60K

[SunEagle]

But it is 130 kWh.
Just a thought, but how much would we pay for 130 kWh of stationary battery capacity ?
Besides, auto gouging prices probably won't last forever and you'd still have a truck - although buying it primarily as a storage battery for time shifting the draw from the POCO would probably take some mind shifting as well.

Since I do not have a TOU rate shifting my usage is not an action I would take. I would like an EV truck but for now even the F150 is not in my price range even if it did have a big battery to use when the grid is down.

[J.P.M.]

If those trucks are even available for a descent price. None close to me unless I want to get on a waiting list for an extra $$$$

But it is 130 kWh.
Just a thought, but how much would we pay for 130 kWh of stationary battery capacity ?
Besides, auto gouging prices probably won't last forever and you'd still have a truck - although buying it primarily as a storage battery for time shifting the draw from the POCO would probably take some mind shifting as well.

[SunEagle]

get F150 lightning extended range, it has 130KWH with super charge, it can power your house when grid drop.

If those trucks are even available for a descent price. None close to me unless I want to get on a waiting list for an extra $$$$

[Mike 134]

It’s sad to see all the disappointment out there. I got lucky when did my solar. I got it at $1.13/kw from a competent local company. But without electricity being very expensive in NY and unlimited net metering it stil wouldn’t make sense.

The calculation is complex but if your payoff is more then 3 or 4 years, solar doesn’t make that much sense given the downsides.

That a typo on the cost? I was at $1.34/w just for the solar materials this past spring. That does not include permits and engineering stamps. Drawings I did myself along with the install.

[ktran1]

get F150 lightning extended range, it has 130KWH with super charge, it can power your house when grid drop.

[Ampster]

The calculation is complex but if your payoff is more then 3 or 4 years, solar doesn’t make that much sense given the downsides.

I agree the calculation is complex. I also believe the downsides need to be weighed against the upsides. Everyone will have difference cost of funds and a different need for a hedge against future cost of utility expense. Finally there is the satisfaction that some derive from a hobby.

[Cshama]

It’s sad to see all the disappointment out there. I got lucky when did my solar. I got it at $1.13/kw from a competent local company. But without electricity being very expensive in NY and unlimited net metering it stil wouldn’t make sense.

The calculation is complex but if your payoff is more then 3 or 4 years, solar doesn’t make that much sense given the downsides.