Is there anyway to SAFELY heat a battery box?

[russ]

I just remember that when the New Jersey arrived in San Diego for Underway Training the deck crew were still hanging over th sides doing touch up painting.

[SunEagle]

Well I got curious and found the answer. In short the new locks are deep enough, but not wide enough for the Nimiitz and Ford Class carriers. They can get them in OK on the high water side, but when lowered 52 feet the sides will scrape. However all the other Navy ships can fit, and the smaller carriers. Just not the Nimitz and Ford Class.

I see you got your tape measure out. Nice job.

[Sunking]

Fly the planes off and land them back again after transit, minimize fuel and water loading and reload on the far side, etc. and I bet the draft would be reduced quite a bit.
Even if you have to send a fuel tender or two through the canal with them.
And, yes I know that nuclear carriers do not carry bunker fuel, but I assume that they do carry a bit of jet fuel.

Well I got curious and found the answer. In short the new locks are deep enough, but not wide enough for the Nimiitz and Ford Class carriers. They can get them in OK on the high water side, but when lowered 52 feet the sides will scrape. However all the other Navy ships can fit, and the smaller carriers. Just not the Nimitz and Ford Class.

[inetdog]

D But I am not sure as Aircraft Carriers need some deep water to clear.

Fly the planes off and land them back again after transit, minimize fuel and water loading and reload on the far side, etc. and I bet the draft would be reduced quite a bit.
Even if you have to send a fuel tender or two through the canal with them.
And, yes I know that nuclear carriers do not carry bunker fuel, but I assume that they do carry a bit of jet fuel.

[Sunking]

I remember when they took the battleship New Jersey through (67 or 68) - the ship was a bit wider than the narrowest part of the canal (seems like 8") but they were in a hurry to get it to San Diego and then Nam. Tugs ahead and behind and lot of painting for the deck hands to touch up.

Do not recall that incident, but I do know th ecanal is being widedend to and a third set of locks are being constructed foe the new Panamax Ships. Not only does it generate a lot of work and capital in Panama but here in the USA, Europe, China and all countries who use the canal. All those countries will have to upgrade their ports to handle all the new larger ships yet to be built.

Mu understand the new locks will be able to handle US Aircraft Carriers and Battle Ships. Bu tI am not sure as Aircraft Carriers need some deep water to clear.

[russ]

Yeah they got a little man-made creek there that ships use. They are even making it a little bigger. That is why no one would dare invade, they would have all the world's super powers military there in a heartbeat to keep it open for commerce. During WW-II the USA and British kept a Submarines, Destroyers, and a Cruisers there on the Caribbean side to lookout for Germans.

I remember when they took the battleship New Jersey through (67 or 68) - the ship was a bit wider than the narrowest part of the canal (seems like 8") but they were in a hurry to get it to San Diego and then Nam. Tugs ahead and behind and lot of painting for the deck hands to touch up.

[Sunking]

Don't they have a valuable canal there ??

Yeah they got a little man-made creek there that ships use. They are even making it a little bigger. That is why no one would dare invade, they would have all the world's super powers military there in a heartbeat to keep it open for commerce. During WW-II the USA and British kept a Submarines, Destroyers, and a Cruisers there on the Caribbean side to lookout for Germans.

[Mike90250]

.... No one will dare invade Panama, a bit Liberal, but overall pretty stable and economically sound.

Don't they have a valuable canal there ??

[Sunking]

there is only so much hate that one person can bear.
Since I do not like it too hot or too cold (plateau in Costa Rico or Rica would be perfect to me) Warm days cool nights sounds appealing.
Panama sound too hot for me (I head to Maine for vacation to get out of the heat)

No Costa Rica is out. Panama is in. Long story short CR Residence and work requirements are too protective. Basically would have to transfer all my funds to CR before they will allow me to work. Morons do not realize I will put people to work, not take work away from the locals.

Anyway Rich in either CR or Panama you can have whatever weather you want. Want it hot and steamy all year live at lower elevation or near the coast. Want 80 degre day time and 60 degree nights live up in the central valleys. Only thing you cannot get is cold or dry air. Well perhaps on top of a few mountains you might get a few cold nights.

In CR Expats live mostly in the Central Valley which is as modern as any US city, great healthcare, speak English, with perfect spring time weather year round. Panama is a bit more open and modern, but spanish is a must outside of Panama City. But they are very friendly to Americans, lots of work if you meet their eligibility residence requirements which is easier than CR, and the currency is the same. Panama is basically th eUSA 52nd state after Puerto Rico. Best of all no Tornadoes or Hurricanes in either one. Earthquake is another story.

CR is just a little to unstable for me with no military and extreme liberal politics. No one will dare invade Panama, a bit Liberal, but overall pretty stable and economically sound.

[Naptown]

If you didn't feel that way now you will that way when he heads off to a nice warm island living or was it panama? I forget..

there is only so much hate that one person can bear.
Since I do not like it too hot or too cold (plateau in Costa Rico or Rica would be perfect to me) Warm days cool nights sounds appealing.
Panama sound too hot for me (I head to Maine for vacation to get out of the heat)

[SunEagle]

I think I hate you

If you didn't feel that way now you will that way when he heads off to a nice warm island living or was it panama? I forget..

[Naptown]

I do a lot of work for cellular telephone companies in remote areas without commercial power in the Dessert SW along Interstate highways and Indian Reservations. They are pretty easy burning a continuous 250 watts 24 hours a day consuming 6 Kwh/day. I use a custom made spreadsheet with Macros to link into NREL to gather Insolation numbers, temperatures, various manufactures data, derating etc. Takes about 1 minute to do a design with parts list and basic drawings. Pretty sweet gig when they come up; cost plus 15%. Telcos got big bucks and strict overkill standards. Typical bill is $80K, plus rework every few years replacing batteries. They maintain the equipment, generator, and fuel. I just collect a check and push some buttons, mail out some bids, go to the site at least once, and push some paper.

I think I hate you

[spike001]

I do a lot of work for cellular telephone companies in remote areas without commercial power in the Dessert SW along Interstate highways and Indian Reservations. They are pretty easy burning a continuous 250 watts 24 hours a day consuming 6 Kwh/day. I use a custom made spreadsheet with Macros to link into NREL to gather Insolation numbers, temperatures, various manufactures data, derating etc. Takes about 1 minute to do a design with parts list and basic drawings. Pretty sweet gig when they come up; cost plus 15%. Telcos got big bucks and strict overkill standards. Typical bill is $80K, plus rework every few years replacing batteries. They maintain the equipment, generator, and fuel. I just collect a check and push some buttons, mail out some bids, go to the site at least once, and push some paper.

Sounds like great work......and I assume no snow. It is STILL snowing here and I'm not even up north. Thanks for your time today. spike

[inetdog]

I do a lot of work for cellular telephone companies in remote areas without commercial power in the Dessert SW along Interstate highways and Indian Reservations. They are pretty easy burning a continuous 250 watts 24 hours a day consuming 6 Kwh/day. I use a custom made spreadsheet with Macros to link into NREL to gather Insolation numbers, temperatures, various manufactures data, derating etc. Takes about 1 minute to do a design with parts list and basic drawings. Pretty sweet gig when they come up; cost plus 15%. Telcos got big bucks and strict overkill standards. Typical bill is $80K, plus rework every few years replacing batteries. They maintain the equipment, generator, and fuel. I just collect a check and push some buttons, mail out some bids, go to the site at least once, and push some paper.

As the classic story goes:
"Itemized bill
Marking X on side of generator $1
Knowing where to mark X on side of generator $9,999."

[Sunking]

If you don't mind - I just have one last question for you. Do you use a tool to make your design calcls? or do you depend on something likes the worksheets that SEI provides?

I do a lot of work for cellular telephone companies in remote areas without commercial power in the Dessert SW along Interstate highways and Indian Reservations. They are pretty easy burning a continuous 250 watts 24 hours a day consuming 6 Kwh/day. I use a custom made spreadsheet with Macros to link into NREL to gather Insolation numbers, temperatures, various manufactures data, derating etc. Takes about 1 minute to do a design with parts list and basic drawings. Pretty sweet gig when they come up; cost plus 15%. Telcos got big bucks and strict overkill standards. Typical bill is $80K, plus rework every few years replacing batteries. They maintain the equipment, generator, and fuel. I just collect a check and push some buttons, mail out some bids, go to the site at least once, and push some paper.