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  • Paris is Burning

    Funny how the media is covering up the riots and protest in France over Carbon Tax. Seems Paris will have to pull out of Paris Agreement on Global Warming. Either that of a Coupe to overthrow the new Socialist President of France.
    MSEE, PE

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    Well, while the latest riots are timed to coordinate with the fuel tariffs. The French is particular love a good riot, and fallout from the Paris Accord is just the latest straw to break the camel's back. Europe's "clean" energy choices are fairly limited -- Natural Gas from Russia or Nuclear. Both leave a bad taste in the mouth. Though, folks were a bit premature to try to abandon nuclear energy wholesale in the wake of Fukushima. While solar is great, PV adoption in EU is already fairly high, and given the high populations, limited land mass, and wetter climates, the potential for additional PV yields will not be as good as they are in the US.

    The reality is that most of Europe has been protesting in one way or another over the past decade due to the unanticipated fallout of unregulated migration in the EU. In France (and Germany) in particular, which has traditionally had a very socialist leaning democratic government most native born French have enjoyed a fairly high standard of living with numerous, very generous social services and benefits. Unfortunately, these social benefits are very expensive and the tax cost to maintain them is very high. When the population was fairly well controlled and growth was slow the economy and social program costs were more or less in balance, but teetering on the edge of becoming too costly to maintain as the general population aged. Historically, there has always been a fair amount of unrest in the youth populations given the difficulty in securing full time work (companies were very reluctant to hire because because of the historic protections and benefits due to the Proletariat. But, because university was essentially free, and well educated youth could easily migrate to other EU countries, the USA or Canada, etc there were options for the majority of well educated, middle class native French who spoke English, German, or Dutch well.

    But recently, in the past 5 to 10 years, despite the burgeoning world economies since the great recession, due to pressures from emigration, mass migration, and the increasing costs of an aging population things have really started to come to a head. This is especially true given the very significant influxes of non-French / non-German speaking mostly middle-Eastern immigrants / migrants escaping from their war torn regions. The immigrants are coming much faster than they can be integrated into the French and German societies and thus have become socially and to a large degree educationally isolated (due to the language barrier). There is also a great deal of bigotry and exclusionary forces at work by the native French and German peoples who, given the limited prospects for jobs for themselves and their own children, prefer to hire native French and German speakers (who are also usually white and Christian) than immigrants in general.

    Macron has the unfortunate distinction of being in the wrong place at the wrong time with a forced hand/mandate to curtail protections for the working class under the guise of "opening" the French economy to supposedly accelerate growth by cutting regulations and social benefits. There's no wonder he and Trump get along so well despite a few petty squabbles for show.

    (www).economist.com/leaders/2018/12/08/emmanuel-macrons-problems-are-more-with-presentation-than-policy

    But recall he was only elected because the majority of the populous couldn't bring themselves to vote for Marine Le Pen as her affiliation with the historically far-Right leaning Nation Front (under the direction of her father Jean-Marie Le Pen) was just too distasteful.

    So now the French are stuck with a capitalist for a president and will fight and protest to retain every possible social benefit despite the rapid approach of insolvency ala Greece or Spain should the economy take a sudden turn for the worse. Of course, they'll continue to blame the immigrants for the deterioration of their once great nation -- just like we do.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by JSchnee21 View Post
      But recently, in the past 5 to 10 years, despite the burgeoning world economies since the great recession, due to pressures from emigration, mass migration, and the increasing costs of an aging population things have really started to come to a head. This is especially true given the very significant influxes of non-French / non-German speaking mostly middle-Eastern immigrants / migrants escaping from their war torn regions.
      That is what happens when you have open borders and allow wars in the region to go unchecked and do nothing about it.

      MSEE, PE

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sunking View Post
        That is what happens when you have open borders and allow wars in the region to go unchecked and do nothing about it.
        Agreed....Build the Wall....

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        • #5
          Originally posted by NewBostonConst View Post

          Agreed....Build the Wall....
          What does this have to do with the sign over the door that says "Solar Panel Talk" ?

          We've got enough divisiveness in this country already.

          This stuff belongs elsewhere.

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