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  • SGT. SLAUGHTER
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 2

    #1

    Do I have what I need

    I recently purchased a yard barn, which is more like a tiny house. I want to power up this tiny house off of solar.
    I am new to solar systems and would appreciate some advice on my planned setup and see if I have everything I need.
    I would spend no more than a weekend at the house, so I only need about 24-48 hours of power.

    What I plan to run on solar.
    Kenmore 99763 fridge 1.0 Amp - 3.1cu ft (dorm room fridge)
    24" flat panel TV
    DVD player
    Radio\bluetooth speaker
    4 x 16' 12v LED light strips
    2 x Cell Phone\tablet chargers
    Standard Box fan
    Mr. Buddy heater AC adapter - only the fan on the Mr. Buddy heater will be powered. Heat will be generated from propane.


    What I Plan to get for solar power equipment:

    Sunforce 60 watt 4 Amp solar panels (15W Each) (already purchased)
    2 x Trojan T105RE batteries in a series to make 12V.
    Xantrex pure sign wave power inverter - 1500W (3000W max) - Can I get by with something smaller? Better suggestions? - Fridge, fan, TV, phone\table chargers, and DVD player will run off of this.
    2 x circuit breakers - One between the solar panels and charge controller and one between the batteries and the power inverter\ distribution block.
    1 x fused power distribution block - LED light strips will run off of this.
    1 x fuse between battery and power inverter


    Main concerns:
    Will the solar panels I bought fully charge the batteries I plan to get?
    Is the power inverter I plan to get overkill\not enough for what I want to run?
    Will I have enough power to run the items I want to run? Keeping in mind the only thing that I would run all the time while I am there would be the box fan, fridge, radio and lights. The TV and DVD would only be used a few hours.

    Thanks
  • SunEagle
    Super Moderator
    • Oct 2012
    • 15168

    #2
    Hello SGT Slaughter and welcome to Solar Panel Talk

    IMO return those Sunforce panels which are pretty much cheap junk and not worth the money or box they come in. They will also not provide enough amps to keep that battery system charged.

    Also that set of batteries (T105RE 225Ah) is only good for about 675 watt hours a day (12v x 225 / 4 = 675wh) which isn't much to run a fridge tv, dvd, light, fan, radio, etc and will be easily drained by that 1500 watt inverter. So you will need more batteries. My guess is you will need double that battery system and about 500 watts of solar panels to keep them charged along with a 60 Amp MPPT charge controller.

    Also what you want to run even for just the weekend will end up costing you thousands of dollars to build a solar/battery system. You would be better off just getting a nice quite 2000 watt inverter style generator.

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    • Logan5
      Solar Fanatic
      • Feb 2013
      • 484

      #3
      I agree take back the junk and get your money back. You need much more than 60 watts to charger two T-105's, you need to get rid of the refrigerator and replace with a chest type that run directly from DC power source. 12 or 24,. volts, since you are in a small space, build a native DC system. replace the power brick on your TV to a DC converter and use 2 D cell batteries on your "Buddy" propane heater or obtain a converter for that DC load also. If you need a box fan, endless breeze, by fantastic vent. You could run all of this on a 12 volt, 2XT-105's but you will be better served with 4Xt-105's and a 24 volt system, as the refrigerator uses half the amps and has a shorter run time.
      Last edited by Logan5; 08-01-2016, 01:37 PM.

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      • Mike90250
        Moderator
        • May 2009
        • 16020

        #4
        won't work. Fridge will consume about 1Kwh worth of power, panels will produce 0.24 Kwh per day.
        Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
        || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
        || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

        solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
        gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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        • SGT. SLAUGHTER
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2016
          • 2

          #5
          Awesome, I had a feeling those solar panels would not do the trick.
          I bought them on an impulse buy a few years ago and thought I could finally put them to use.
          Well maybe they will power my 12v LED lights lol.
          I do have a generator so I will just plan to run everything but the lighting from the generator.
          I appreciate everyone's time and suggestions.



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          • Sunking
            Solar Fanatic
            • Feb 2010
            • 23301

            #6
            Save yourself a lot of money time and frustration. Run a AC line.
            MSEE, PE

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            • Logan5
              Solar Fanatic
              • Feb 2013
              • 484

              #7
              ditto

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