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    hi everyone, i have a game camera im trying to hook up and i want to use rechargeable batteries and a solar panel to keep it charged, now i bought all 6v 4.5Ah batteries and a 6v moultrie solar panel and when i got my game cameras i discovered the cameras were 12. so i can hook the batters in series keeping the amps down, but how do i hook up a 6v solar panel to this so it charges both evenly?

    thanks

  • #2
    You are going to have to purchase another PV panel.

    Before you spend any more $, do you know the power requirements for your camera?
    Volts, amps (I guess we now know it's 12V)

    To run off solar, you need to mount the panels in a shade free area, even a small shadow, will inhibit any power production in a small system.

    You may be better off, buying a pair of 12V deep cycle batteries, and recharge one at home, and swap them out every week (or when they get low)
    spreadsheet based voltage drop calculator:
    http://www.solar-guppy.com/download/...calculator.zip
    http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showth...oss-calculator

    http://www.mike-burgess.org/PVinfo_2.html

    solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
    gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister ,
    battery lugs http://tinyurl.com/LMR-BigLug
    Setting up batteries http://tinyurl.com/LMR-NiFe

    gear :
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||

    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||

    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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    • #3
      Well it just says it a 12v camera. I have 8 solar panels for my cameras and 4 or 8 6volt batteries already. Do I need to hook 1-panel per battery or would hooking the baterys up in "parallel be better because then I can use 1panel but my amps will be higher and I risk smoking the camera or mayb that's not enough amps to fry them I don't know.

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      • #4
        Do they give any indication of what size of battery would run the camera for how long ? It'd be bad to build up a system, and then find out it's only 1/3 the size it should be. Sadly, you generally find out when the battery is destroyed from over discharge.

        Batteries in parallel. It's better to have 1 large battery, then 3 small ones in parallel.

        more batteries in parallel won't blow up the camera, any more than changing a 100w light bulb, to a 15 w light bulb . The camera only pulls as much current (amps) as it needs.
        spreadsheet based voltage drop calculator:
        http://www.solar-guppy.com/download/...calculator.zip
        http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showth...oss-calculator

        http://www.mike-burgess.org/PVinfo_2.html

        solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
        gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister ,
        battery lugs http://tinyurl.com/LMR-BigLug
        Setting up batteries http://tinyurl.com/LMR-NiFe

        gear :
        Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||

        || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||

        || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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        • #5
          Well the cameras take 6 C-batterys. I have 4 or 5 cameras so buying 10 deep cycle batterys isn't going to happen. Useing these 6v ones would of been perfect if the camers we 6v so now I need to make it work

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ryans01z28 View Post
            Well the cameras take 6 C-batterys. ...
            How long do they run on the C batteries ? (we can search the web and find out the capacity of an average alkaline C battery.[ 8 amp hours] ) Then we can guess how large of PV and battery we need.

            http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/E93.pdf
            Last edited by Mike90250; 08-25-2011, 03:06 PM.
            spreadsheet based voltage drop calculator:
            http://www.solar-guppy.com/download/...calculator.zip
            http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showth...oss-calculator

            http://www.mike-burgess.org/PVinfo_2.html

            solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
            gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister ,
            battery lugs http://tinyurl.com/LMR-BigLug
            Setting up batteries http://tinyurl.com/LMR-NiFe

            gear :
            Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||

            || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||

            || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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            • #7
              I have no idea how long but if I hadto guess I'd say mabe 3mos or so depending on how many pics it takes I suppose

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ryans01z28 View Post
                I have no idea how long but if I hadto guess I'd say mabe 3mos or so depending on how many pics it takes I suppose
                2 months is 1440 hours and 8 amps comes up with about 6mAh consumed a day. Almost nothing.

                So, you should be fine, hook 2, 6V batteries in series, you have 12V now

                Now, lets explore the panels a bit more, any labels or stickers on them ?
                Attached Files
                spreadsheet based voltage drop calculator:
                http://www.solar-guppy.com/download/...calculator.zip
                http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showth...oss-calculator

                http://www.mike-burgess.org/PVinfo_2.html

                solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister ,
                battery lugs http://tinyurl.com/LMR-BigLug
                Setting up batteries http://tinyurl.com/LMR-NiFe

                gear :
                Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||

                || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||

                || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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                • #9
                  U know I'm not sure on the panel, I will have to check we I get home later 2day I see if there's anything on it. Its a moultrie 6v solar panel if you want to google it, I don't remb. Seeing anything when I looke at it

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                  • #10
                    Google that tonight, and see what info you can find about it, it may have blocking diodes already. Need Volts and Amps info
                    spreadsheet based voltage drop calculator:
                    http://www.solar-guppy.com/download/...calculator.zip
                    http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showth...oss-calculator

                    http://www.mike-burgess.org/PVinfo_2.html

                    solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                    gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister ,
                    battery lugs http://tinyurl.com/LMR-BigLug
                    Setting up batteries http://tinyurl.com/LMR-NiFe

                    gear :
                    Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||

                    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||

                    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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                    • #11
                      wouldn't 6 d cells be 9V? not 12
                      Rich
                      WWW.solarsaves.net

                      NABCEP certified Technical Sales Professional

                      http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showth...Battery-Design

                      http://www.calculator.net/voltage-drop-calculator.html (Voltage drop Calculator among others)

                      www.gaisma.com

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                      • #12
                        If I just call the company I should ask them how many amps they use and volts??

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Naptown View Post
                          wouldn't 6 d cells be 9V? not 12
                          The other camera I have takes 4 C-batteries but accepts a 12v source but I see what your saying. I thought the samething too

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ryans01z28 View Post
                            The other camera I have takes 4 C-batteries but accepts a 12v source but I see what your saying. I thought the samething too
                            I just went home & checked the back of the panel & package and there's nothing. I will call the company and ask how many amps it uses and volts
                            Here's the panle I'm working with if u ant 2see it
                            Attached Files

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                            • #15
                              Ok here's what I found out, I can hook the panel directly 2the camera and keep the 6 C-batteries in there and the camera will run off that at nite.

                              The panels are putting out around 5 amps also.

                              I also found out they ARE 9v and not 12 which is what I was thinking from the beginning. So now I still have to buy 6 C-batteries for it anyway. Wonder if there's a way to just use the 2-6volt batts and hook the panel up to them. I could zap 1battery a few times to kill the cells to rach my 9v I suppose

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