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  • IntoTheWild
    Junior Member
    • May 2018
    • 12

    Real world MAX VOC boundaries

    Do you think I would pushing it if I rigged up two of these in series with a 100VOC controller:

    Screen Shot 2018-05-23 at 7.32.12 PM.png
    87.8 x 1.25 = 109.75VOC

    I believe 25% may be a very safe margin of error.

    Thoughts?
  • Sunking
    Solar Fanatic
    • Feb 2010
    • 23301

    #2
    It is over the limit. Using the 125% rule from codes is extremely liberal, and with using such lenient code rule is still over the limit. Do as you wish, but if you wake up one cool morning and your controller fails, you will know why. Good luck.

    EDIT NOTE:

    If this is for an RV using on a 12 volt battery system, wire the panels in parallel. Even at 24 volt battery if the wire lengths between the panels is fairly short and/or oversized is quite doable. There is no need to push the limit and takes chances.
    Last edited by Sunking; 05-28-2018, 08:08 PM.
    MSEE, PE

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    • Mike90250
      Moderator
      • May 2009
      • 16020

      #3
      Your Voc is 43.9V, 2 in series would be 87.8v @ 70F A chilly morning and you are dead.
      Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
      || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
      || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

      solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
      gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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      • IntoTheWild
        Junior Member
        • May 2018
        • 12

        #4
        Thanks for the advice! Sunking Mike90250

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        • Simon Masters
          Junior Member
          • May 2018
          • 1

          #5

          Hi everyone...
          Mike90250 says "our Voc is 43.9V, 2 in series would be 87.8v @ 70F A chilly morning and you are dead." but has an vergreen 200w in a 160VOC array???
          Just askin like pots and kettles?

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          • littleharbor
            Solar Fanatic
            • Jan 2016
            • 1998

            #6
            He has a Midnite Solar Classic 200. In a 48 volt configuration, with Midnite's Hyper VOC feature he's safe to 248 volts. There are charge controllers that can handle up to 600 volts, if you want to spend the money.
            2.2kw Suntech mono, Classic 200, NEW Trace SW4024

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            • Sunking
              Solar Fanatic
              • Feb 2010
              • 23301

              #7
              Originally posted by littleharbor
              He has a Midnite Solar Classic 200. In a 48 volt configuration,.
              Where did I miss that tidbit of info?

              He clearly said:

              Do you think I would pushing it if I rigged up two of these in series with a 100VOC controller:
              MSEE, PE

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              • littleharbor
                Solar Fanatic
                • Jan 2016
                • 1998

                #8
                Originally posted by Simon Masters
                Hi everyone...
                Mike90250 says "our Voc is 43.9V, 2 in series would be 87.8v @ 70F A chilly morning and you are dead." but has an vergreen 200w in a 160VOC array???
                Just askin like pots and kettles?
                He was asking about Mike90250's Sig line. which shows,
                || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A
                2.2kw Suntech mono, Classic 200, NEW Trace SW4024

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                • Mike90250
                  Moderator
                  • May 2009
                  • 16020

                  #9
                  yeah, what littleharbor said.
                  I've got 2 arrays on the 48V bank. One has a 150V controller and the other a 200V controller. Had to stuff more wires in the conduit, and could not exceed the legal fill factor, so had to increase voltage over 150V. I've seen my 160V nominal array hit 180v on cold mornings, and 154 on hot days. And you don't even need frost. Dark panels, facing the night sky, can, via thermal radiation get colder than the ambient air by a couple degrees, that's how the ancients made ice in the desert, at night , under a clear sky.
                  Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                  || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                  || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

                  solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                  gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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