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    Hello guys, I am new here. I got into some road block with my installer and concern about safety of my solar structure, feel free to comment on my post. Thanks

    Tomato

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    And your concerns are....
    2.2kw Suntech mono, Classic 200, NEW Trace SW4024

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    • #3
      Hi Tomato and welcome to Solar Panel Talk.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by littleharbor View Post
        And your concerns are....
        Please take a look at my post "Which is a fair contract rate per watt???", I have pictures of my panels in PDF attached to that post. Thanks [h=1][/h]

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        • #5
          Originally posted by tomatoUSA View Post

          Please take a look at my post "Which is a fair contract rate per watt???", I have pictures of my panels in PDF attached to that post. Thanks
          That is one of the ugliest installs I've ever seen. Your installers need to go back to the Home Depot parking lot and look for some work in the ditch digging field..

          The incorrectly oriented rail and hold down clamp really speak for themselves.

          Are you using microinverters? Hope so due to the shading being caused by the mast rising up from between the array. Is that a TV antenna? Could it have been relocated?

          There's no reason the panels should be in contact with your roof. Aside from the poorly located and too short lower legs. They might have been reluctant to slide the panels upward because the upper rail is already poorly placed due to the too short legs.

          What's going on with the large PVC plastic conduit? Is there a Jacuzzi on the roof we cant see?

          Sorry to sound harsh but you really should have done your homework and gotten some reviews on this solar company. I cant see anybody doing this level of work getting any positive reviews.
          Last edited by littleharbor; 05-26-2019, 08:08 AM.
          2.2kw Suntech mono, Classic 200, NEW Trace SW4024

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          • #6
            Originally posted by littleharbor View Post

            That is one of the ugliest installs I've ever seen. Your installers need to go back to the Home Depot parking lot and look for some work in the ditch digging field..

            The incorrectly oriented rail and hold down clamp really speak for themselves.

            Are you using microinverters? Hope so due to the shading being caused by the mast rising up from between the array. Is that a TV antenna? Could it have been relocated?

            There's no reason the panels should be in contact with your roof. Aside from the poorly located and too short lower legs. They might have been reluctant to slide the panels upward because the upper rail is already poorly placed due to the too short legs.

            What's going on with the large PVC plastic conduit? Is there a Jacuzzi on the roof we cant see?

            Sorry to sound harsh but you really should have done your homework and gotten some reviews on this solar company. I cant see anybody doing this level of work getting any positive reviews.
            I'd sure like to get a look at that but for some reason I can't get the photos to come up.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by J.P.M. View Post

              I'd sure like to get a look at that but for some reason I can't get the photos to come up.
              They are PDF's of the roof top. I agree with littleharbor. The installation leaves a lot to be desired.

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              • #8
                I agree with [USER="33699"]littleharbor[/USER] and@sun eagle......that is not a professional install. Worst is the PVC conduit. I have never seen PVC conduit allowed on a roof, don't think it's legal or OK with your insurance company. You may be incurring some liability there. If it's not code your insurance company has a way out of paying you if the system burns down your house. Get a local professional to assess the installation........just my humble option!
                david

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by littleharbor View Post

                  That is one of the ugliest installs I've ever seen. Your installers need to go back to the Home Depot parking lot and look for some work in the ditch digging field..

                  The incorrectly oriented rail and hold down clamp really speak for themselves.

                  Are you using microinverters? Hope so due to the shading being caused by the mast rising up from between the array. Is that a TV antenna? Could it have been relocated?

                  There's no reason the panels should be in contact with your roof. Aside from the poorly located and too short lower legs. They might have been reluctant to slide the panels upward because the upper rail is already poorly placed due to the too short legs.

                  What's going on with the large PVC plastic conduit? Is there a Jacuzzi on the roof we cant see?

                  Sorry to sound harsh but you really should have done your homework and gotten some reviews on this solar company. I cant see anybody doing this level of work getting any positive reviews.
                  Yes, I am using Enphase IQ7+ with LG360.
                  I have removed the TV antenna and the pole.
                  I wanted some space between panels and shingle but like you mention due to poorly located and short lower legs, I am hesitate to push panels more upward.

                  littleharbor, should I leave the panels as is or push them upward like 1-2 inch so wind can escape from beneath the panels.
                  My biggest concern is when wind hit the roof and has no way to escape it will up life the panels. So having some gap between the lower portion of panels without touching shingle should help.
                  One other thing is without gap, rain and snow will just sit there.

                  The large PVC plastic conduit is for Chemlink to waterproof the penetrations. Without the PVC chemlink will not stay in place. I wish I have a Jacuzzi, lol.
                  I thought PVC is a standard practice. I ask if the PVC can be remove, they said PVC is staying permanently.

                  I did do my homework. I got multiple quotes too. They claim to have done many commercial site and residential is a piece of cake for them.
                  I guess I didn't dig deeper. I just found out this installer has a claim on BBB site, someone suit them for ruin their entire roof due to leaks.

                  At this moment, installer company has not show me my system is fully operational yet. They only focus on payment, not so much on quality of work or customer satisfaction.
                  I asked to relocate one panel because it stick out on side of the roof (the one on picture showing uneven with rest) and they need $650 before moving it.

                  I really appreciate your comments, whatever is not done right I rather know now instead of causing bigger problem later on. Thank you!



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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by J.P.M. View Post

                    I'd sure like to get a look at that but for some reason I can't get the photos to come up.
                    Hi JPM, please see attached pictures in PDF file. Thanks
                    Attached Files

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tecnodave View Post
                      I agree with [USER="33699"]littleharbor[/USER] and@sun eagle......that is not a professional install. Worst is the PVC conduit. I have never seen PVC conduit allowed on a roof, don't think it's legal or OK with your insurance company. You may be incurring some liability there. If it's not code your insurance company has a way out of paying you if the system burns down your house. Get a local professional to assess the installation........just my humble option!
                      david
                      Just to clarify you referring to white PVC or gray PVC? The white PVC is for Chemlink, the gray PVC is the AC wire (#10 wire and Enphase Qcable inside). Thanks

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                      • #12
                        I need to go back and look again at the pics, can't do that here, slow internet, will peek today, Not sure what chemleak is, if that is low voltage data cables, probably ok under the code, but my understanding is PVC is not allowed for power on the roof, I might be wrong on that as I do not work with grid tie, exclusively off grid so I have never dealt with AC power on a roof. Please explain chemleak
                        Last edited by Tecnodave; 05-28-2019, 11:44 AM. Reason: Did not see gray PVC, pic didn't come out too good on iPad, will peek with PC

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                        • #13
                          I can see only the large PVC conduit its light grey in color as far as I can tell, but that could be manufacturing difference, mine is darker. Inspectors here don't like PVC used for power on the roof, my local inspectors want EMT with waterproof couplers.

                          In any case that mechanical assembly leaves much to be desired, I would be reluctant to lay down any money until job is satisfactory
                          Last edited by Tecnodave; 05-28-2019, 11:57 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tecnodave View Post
                            I need to go back and look again at the pics, can't do that here, slow internet, will peek today, Not sure what chemleak is, if that is low voltage data cables, probably ok under the code, but my understanding is PVC is not allowed for power on the roof, I might be wrong on that as I do not work with grid tie, exclusively off grid so I have never dealt with AC power on a roof. Please explain chemleak
                            https://www.chemlink.com/Products/Ro...on-Seal-System
                            Chemlink is just waterproof gel or caulking.

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                            • #15
                              Ok, I thought that is what it might be. So is PVC ok in NYC, codes do vary, even city to city. One city around here is still 1993 NEC....LOL
                              I do understand that is difficult to seal roof penetration, I don't do that, that's the roofers job.

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