Batteries to accomodate 2-100w panels

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  • CatchingSun
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 12

    Batteries to accomodate 2-100w panels

    I am 35N with plans of running off 12v for the time being. What can I reasonably expect to produce at 35N and what would be the appropriate battery size/capacity? Consumption will be adjusted to coincide with production. Appreciate any suggestions.
  • Mike90250
    Moderator
    • May 2009
    • 16020

    #2
    How about a zip code or nearby city. There are only a few thousand miles of 36N

    200W of pv panels. I'd use a Morningstar Suresine 300w. It's very efficient, has a huge surge capacity (600w for 10 min) It won't start a standard fridge, but would likely start a new inverter-compressor fridge
    (but you don't have enough panels to run a fridge for long.

    I'd use a pair of 6V 200ah golf cart batteries, and you can manage loads up to about 800 watt hours, unless your site is exceptionally clear and sunny.
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

    solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
    gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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    • CatchingSun
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2015
      • 12

      #3
      Thanks Mike, I will look into that inverter . Northern CA. Really interested in running small things that I can within reason, which I will estimate more precisely when the system is in effect. 2-6V 200ah batteries in series sounds like a good start. These batteries are 50% of the total rated capacity generally speaking? Panels will have quite a bit of sunlight during the winter and summer.

      Will this ( https://www.amazon.com/Controller-Ba...rge+controller ) work with the two panels in series attached to a 12v system? If not I will simply run them in parallel?

      Thanks Again.
      Last edited by CatchingSun; 11-16-2018, 04:53 PM.

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      • Mike90250
        Moderator
        • May 2009
        • 16020

        #4
        That controller is a PWM, so you have to use the panels in parallel
        Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
        || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
        || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

        solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
        gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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        • CatchingSun
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 12

          #5
          Received the CC today. According to the spec sheets it can be used with 24v battery configuration and a max input voltage of 46v from the panels.

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          • Mike90250
            Moderator
            • May 2009
            • 16020

            #6
            Originally posted by CatchingSun
            Received the CC today. According to the spec sheets it can be used with 24v battery configuration and a max input voltage of 46v from the panels.
            So ?
            It's still a PWM controller.. With a 12V system, panel Vmp over 20V, you start wasting power

            PWM controllers, work with Amps in = Amps out. a 350W panel @ 4 A will give you the same harvest as a 100w panel @ 4A
            Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
            || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
            || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

            solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
            gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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            • CatchingSun
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 12

              #7
              Originally posted by Mike90250

              So ?
              It's still a PWM controller.. With a 12V system, panel Vmp over 20V, you start wasting power

              PWM controllers, work with Amps in = Amps out. a 350W panel @ 4 A will give you the same harvest as a 100w panel @ 4A
              I was looking for a 24v (4x6v) suggestion for the batteries, but in the interim my battery arrangement will be as you suggested (2x6v series) with the option of 24v configuration later.

              Thanks for the help.

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