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  • Nefariis
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 14

    Battery Question...

    I thought I read somewhere that charge controllers only charge at 10% of the max ah's of the battery bank (or at least that's whats recommended).

    Any truth to that?

    Thanks
  • inetdog
    Super Moderator
    • May 2012
    • 9909

    #2
    Originally posted by Nefariis
    I thought I read somewhere that charge controllers only charge at 10% of the max ah's of the battery bank (or at least that's whats recommended).

    Any truth to that?

    Thanks
    What is recommended varies with the type of battery and the degree of monitoring of the battery temperature, etc.

    For Flooded Lead Acid (FLA) the minimum for good electrolyte mixing is C/12. The maximum to avoid battery plate damage, when applied regularly, is C/6. Your C/10 falls right in the middle of the two.

    For AGM batteries with their lower internal resistance, C/4 is not unreasonable and one deciding factor for AGM batteries is if you have a very limited number of solar hours during which to complete the charging. With proper monitoring and temperature compensation in the CC, a charge rate of C is possible for some SLA battery banks.

    For GEL, which are not recommended for PV, a maximum rate of C/20 is recommended unless the specific manufacturer specifies otherwise.
    SunnyBoy 3000 US, 18 BP Solar 175B panels.

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    • Nefariis
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 14

      #3
      Alright, so if my panel is set up at 700 watts at 18v's or roughly 40 amps - I would need roughly a 400 ah battery bank to make use of the array efficiently?

      I understand energy loss btw, I'm just trying to keep the math easy.

      Thanks again

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      • Sunking
        Solar Fanatic
        • Feb 2010
        • 23301

        #4
        Originally posted by Nefariis
        Alright, so if my panel is set up at 700 watts at 18v's or roughly 40 amps - I would need roughly a 400 ah battery bank to make use of the array efficiently?

        I understand energy loss btw, I'm just trying to keep the math easy.

        Thanks again
        No not at all. It depends on the charge controller type you are using. If using PWM INPUT CURRENT = OUTPUT CURRENT. So for your 700 watt array with 40 amps in you get 40 amps out at 12 volt = 480 watts.

        With MPPT OUTPUT CURRENT = PANEL WATTAGE / NOMINAL BATTERY VOLTAGE = 700 watts / 12 volts = 58.3 amps.
        MSEE, PE

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        • Nefariis
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 14

          #5
          Ok I have a 60a MPPT controller

          So can I expect that my panels will charge my battery bank at 40-50amps?

          and last question

          Is it just a straight across conversion - to recharge 220 ah battery bank at 40 amps takes ~ 5.5 hours (plus what ever inefficiencies are in the system)?

          Thanks

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          • Sunking
            Solar Fanatic
            • Feb 2010
            • 23301

            #6
            Originally posted by Nefariis
            Ok I have a 60a MPPT controller

            So can I expect that my panels will charge my battery bank at 40-50amps?

            and last question

            Is it just a straight across conversion - to recharge 220 ah battery bank at 40 amps takes ~ 5.5 hours (plus what ever inefficiencies are in the system)?

            Thanks
            No Sir, not straight across as batteries have a charge efficiency of about 80% and a Saturation time. Recharge time with a 3-stage charger is Hours = [AH / A] x 1.2 + 6 hours saturation on Absorb. So if you had a dead 220 AH battery with a 50 amp charger would take roughly [220 AH / 50 A] x 1.2 + 6 hours = 11.28 hours.

            You can expect up to 40 to 50 amps max assuming you have the panels configured correctly at the right tilt and orientation around solar noon with crystal clear skies. That is assuming your batteries are demanding full charge in the BULK charging stage.
            MSEE, PE

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