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[Naptown]

My bad it was Carter.

[SunEagle]

My bad it was Carter.

Snap. What do peanuts have to do with fuel rods?

Now you dissed my reasoning.

[Naptown]

Snap. What do peanuts have to do with fuel rods?

Now you dissed my reasoning.

His fear was that recycled fuel Rods could be used as a substitute for Otto diesel's originally intended motor fuel

[Sunking]

It must have been someone that had a lot of investments in oil to make that decision but I think it was Bill C.

No it was a traitor called Jimmy Carter signed it off in 1976. It had nothing to do with oil. It was paranoia when India went nuclear and Carter was afraid someone might intercept fuel rods and make a bomb. Pretty stupid since it takes very special equipment to remove plutonium and refine it down enough to make weapons grade material. Not to mention the huge quantities that would be required to make a bomb.

[Ian S]

No it was a traitor called Jimmy Carter signed it off in 1976.

That would have been quite an accomplishment since Carter wasn't even President in 1976!

Of course it was actually President Ford who instituted a moratorium on civilian spent fuel processing in 1976. Carter did make it "permanent" but of course we've had five Presidents since who could have easily rescinded that order but chose not to. I wonder why. Maybe it's because of what's contained in the original study that prompted Ford's decision, but alas that study is apparently still classified.

[SunEagle]

That would have been quite an accomplishment since Carter wasn't even President in 1976!

Of course it was actually President Ford who instituted a moratorium on civilian spent fuel processing in 1976. Carter did make it "permanent" but of course we've had five Presidents since who could have easily rescinded that order but chose not to. I wonder why. Maybe it's because of what's contained in the original study that prompted Ford's decision, but alas that study is apparently still classified.

Sounds like the blind leading the blind. Fear will make people do stupid things and burying fuel rods is one of those.

Thanks for the history lesson guys.

[Ian S]

Sounds like the blind leading the blind. Fear will make people do stupid things and burying fuel rods is one of those.

Thanks for the history lesson guys.

Turns out to be even more complicated. In fact, I was wrong about no President reversing the Carter order. Apparently, Reagan did just that soon after he came into office. But because he wasn't willing to have the government subsidize the whole thing, nobody was interested. In fact, the actual economics for reprocessing remain questionable even today.

"And now you know the rest of the story."

[albert436]

"Good day!"

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[russ]

In fact, the actual economics for reprocessing remain questionable even today. "And now you know the rest of the story."

France is quite happy with the reprocessing and technology.

[Ian S]

France is quite happy with the reprocessing and technology.

Of course, in that case it's the government calling the shots. In this country, apparently, industry doesn't believe it can be profitable without government involvement - and subsidy. So yes, the economics from a private enterprise point of view remain questionable.

[russ]

Of course, in that case it's the government calling the shots. In this country, apparently, industry doesn't believe it can be profitable without government involvement - and subsidy. So yes, the economics from a private enterprise point of view remain questionable.

Oh the ugly unspecified subsidy word - what subsidies? The only thing on the table today that I am aware of is protection from lawsuits - which is a good thing.

[Sunking]

Of course, in that case it's the government calling the shots. In this country, apparently, industry doesn't believe it can be profitable without government involvement - and subsidy. So yes, the economics from a private enterprise point of view remain questionable.

Industry has no problem with reprocessing, They are not allowed to. Some idiot by the name of Jimmy Carter signed an XO to stop reprocessing and no it just sits and is pilling up. There is no problem storing spent uranium, it is a man made problem created by horrible energy policy.

When are you folks going to wake up.

[Ian S]

Oh the ugly unspecified subsidy word - what subsidies? The only thing on the table today that I am aware of is protection from lawsuits - which is a good thing.

Not arguing good or bad. Protection from lawsuits is a subsidy. Without it, the economics remain questionable.

[Ian S]

Some idiot by the name of Jimmy Carter signed an XO to stop reprocessing

And Reagan reversed the order in his first year in office. But without government taking on the risk while private enterprise reaps the rewards, no company is interested.

[Sunking]

And Reagan reversed the order in his first year in office. But without government taking on the risk while private enterprise reaps the rewards, no company is interested.

Are you that ignorant Ian. DOE made it too expensive by heavy handed regulations. A plant was under construction in March of 99 in South Carolina (Duke Energy). It took 11 years to get the permit to build and the extra unnecessary expense put on the project by the Employment Prevention Agency caused the plant to be scrapped because of $5 Billion added by NOBAMA and EPA to bury the project. That my friend is a conspiracy and you fell for it.

Currently today France, UK, Russia, India, and Japan all reprocess their fuel. USA is the only idiot who does not and now has millions of tons of spent rods being stored in nuclear plants waiting for politics to get out of the way.