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  • superben
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 10

    #1

    say it aint so....

    it is possable ...to wire your cells in parallel ,,with voltage befit of series...

    surely I cant be the only one who has figured this out

    what if you had a solar panel that was 8 inches by 8 inches....
    and it could produce 12 volts and 8 amps...
  • Sunking
    Solar Fanatic
    • Feb 2010
    • 23301

    #2
    100% efficient is 1000 watts/m2

    1/m2 = 1550/in2

    So you have 8 x 8 = 64/in2

    64/1550 = .041/m2

    So at 100% efficiency a panel could generate .041 x 1000 watts = 41 watts

    You are claiming 96 watts which is 234% efficient. If you buy that, then I have a book I can sell you that instructions you how to build a HHO generator for your car using nothing more than simple items in your kitchen that will make your car get 100 MPG. All it will cost you is $99 plus shipping.
    MSEE, PE

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    • superben
      Junior Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 10

      #3
      thanks for your reply,,,,


      but is there a on-line calculator that can figure this out with different values and sizes... that would be really handy....

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      • superben
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 10

        #4
        lets try again with a little bit more information

        .. lets try again with a little bit more information....

        the cells being used are ....
        Polycrystalline Solar cell that measures .42 volt, 2 amps, 1 watt
        {for this panel we will use 4 of them}

        now if you hook them up in series...
        you have around 1.68 volts, 2 amps ,and 3.36 watts

        and in parallel you have .42 volts , 8 amps and 3.36 watts

        if this is correct ,,, further discussion will be necessary

        if you think out side the box... the first post of this thread is possible

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        • superben
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 10

          #5
          ...

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          • superben
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 10

            #6
            I can charge 12 volt batteries with 8 amps from 4 "solar cells" wired in parallel

            does any one know how I did it?

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            • MarineLiner
              Solar Skipper
              • May 2009
              • 656

              #7
              Originally posted by superben
              I can charge 12 volt batteries with 8 amps
              from 4 "solar cells" wired in parallel
              so, you have
              4 solar panels or
              4 solar cells ?
              Panel consist of cells.

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              • MarineLiner
                Solar Skipper
                • May 2009
                • 656

                #8
                Originally posted by superben
                it is possable ...to wire your cells in parallel ,,with befit of series...
                surely I cant be the only one who has figured this out

                what if you had a
                solar panel that was
                8 inches by 8 inches....
                and it could produce
                12 volts and 8 amps...
                Here, 1st post, you said "panel".

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                • superben
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 10

                  #9
                  4 cells... wired in parallel .... 12 volts... 8 amps...

                  just do some messing around and you can make a circuit to boost the voltage
                  so then you can have the amps and the volts ...

                  then all of a sudden solar cells can do more than "trickle charge " batteries

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                  • crxvfr
                    Solar Fanatic
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 173

                    #10
                    [insert popcorn eating smiley to signify that I am somehow enjoying this thread]

                    Are you sure that the battery wasn't charged to begin with?

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                    • superben
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 10

                      #11
                      I am sure...

                      solar panels suck so bad there is much room for improvment...

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                      • Mike90250
                        Moderator
                        • May 2009
                        • 16020

                        #12
                        Originally posted by superben
                        4 cells... wired in parallel .... 12 volts... 8 amps...

                        just do some messing around and you can make a circuit to boost the voltage
                        so then you can have the amps and the volts ...

                        then all of a sudden solar cells can do more than "trickle charge " batteries
                        I'd like to see a photo of your meters, displaying the magical solar panel you have. 96w from a 8"x8" panel with un-concentrated sunlight ?
                        Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                        || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                        || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

                        solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                        gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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                        • crxvfr
                          Solar Fanatic
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 173

                          #13
                          Originally posted by superben
                          I am sure...

                          solar panels suck so bad there is much room for improvment...
                          They have come a long way with solar the past few years. I'm kind of impressed with the solar panels. What I think stinks is the amount of batteries you need to do anything that pertains to heat.

                          Good luck with your project. The I'm willing to believe the holy grail of solar is still out there someplace.

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                          • superben
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 10

                            #14
                            good luck to you as well good sir....

                            try wiring your cells in parallel to give you maximum amperage...
                            then use a circuit of sorts to raise the voltage....

                            just like how a stun gun works... it takes 9V and raises it to hundreds of thousands volts..{ but no amps}

                            but in this case you only have .42 volts and only need 14V to charge yo ****
                            your panel makes the amps and the circuit makes the volts

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                            • Mike90250
                              Moderator
                              • May 2009
                              • 16020

                              #15
                              Originally posted by superben
                              good luck to you as well good sir....

                              try wiring your cells in parallel to give you maximum amperage...
                              then use a circuit of sorts to raise the voltage....

                              just like how a stun gun works... it takes 9V and raises it to hundreds of thousands volts..{ but no amps}

                              but in this case you only have .42 volts and only need 14V to charge yo ****
                              your panel makes the amps and the circuit makes the volts
                              But the WATTS have to remain the same. DC-Dc converters are everywhere, computer motherboards, stun guns, and TV's. But you trade amps for volts (exactly like your stun gun) A 15W panel, can still only generate 15 watts.
                              Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                              || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                              || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

                              solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                              gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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