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    I was listening into a conversation at the weekend where the guy was talking about some new saline battery solution that is set to revolutionize the solar industry as an energy storage device. Many times better than all present battery technology. I felt I didn't know enough about battery storage solutions to join in the conversation, but does anyone know what the hell he was talking about?? or had he been smoking something? or is there indeed some wonder solution just around the corner. Is this a fuel cell? He said it's also being used in a new supercar. Anyone point me in the right direction to read up on this technology?

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    He was most likely talking about Aquion. You can search other posts here for debates about the pros and cons of it. Not so sure about it being used in a car...
    Solar Queen
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Amy@altE View Post
      He was most likely talking about Aquion. You can search other posts here for debates about the pros and cons of it. Not so sure about it being used in a car...
      In a Car yes is what they were promoted for.

      20 wh/Kg and max C-Rate of C/6 for a car is some really funny stuff. They must live in Colorado smoking Sour Diesel.

      MSEE, PE

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      • #4
        Originally posted by pamalot View Post
        I was listening into a conversation at the weekend where the guy was talking about some new saline battery solution that is set to revolutionize the solar industry as an energy storage device. Many times better than all present battery technology. I felt I didn't know enough about battery storage solutions to join in the conversation, but does anyone know what the hell he was talking about?? or had he been smoking something? or is there indeed some wonder solution just around the corner. Is this a fuel cell? He said it's also being used in a new supercar. Anyone point me in the right direction to read up on this technology?
        The saline part sounds like Aquion, but if so I don't see how it could be marketed for anything that is defined as a "supercar". The energy density is low and it has higher internal resistance than other chemistries. It would be a good way to transform a Tesla into a vintage Volkwagen bus.

        There are threads here on Aquion.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Living Large View Post
          The saline part sounds like Aquion, but if so I don't see how it could be marketed for anything that is defined as a "supercar". The energy density is low and it has higher internal resistance than other chemistries. It would be a good way to transform a Tesla into a vintage Volkwagen bus.

          There are threads here on Aquion.
          Well if you followed them from the start that is exactly the market they were looking for. Once the numbers came out that the EV sector said go fly a kite, so now to salvage the effort trying RE.
          MSEE, PE

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sunking View Post
            Well if you followed them from the start that is exactly the market they were looking for. Once the numbers came out that the EV sector said go fly a kite, so now to salvage the effort trying RE.
            Is that right? I guess that was in the spitball and pencil on napkins stage of development.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sunking View Post
              Well if you followed them from the start that is exactly the market they were looking for. Once the numbers came out that the EV sector said go fly a kite, so now to salvage the effort trying RE.

              www.windstax.com

              has thrown the magic wand to Aquion Energy now.

              I'm Looking for Sunking to also make dem 'his man'
              one of these days.

              Bill Blake

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sundetective View Post
                www.windstax.com

                has thrown the magic wand to Aquion Energy now.

                I'm Looking for Sunking to also make dem 'his man'
                one of these days.

                Bill Blake
                Although Off Topic, there is another company that makes modular solar/wind turbine systems called SolarMill. They have a few installed in the US but many more in the Caribbean.

                The thing is I have not been able to find a price on any of their systems which tells me that are not cheap.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SunEagle View Post
                  Although Off Topic, there is another company that makes modular solar/wind turbine systems called SolarMill. They have a few installed in the US but many more in the Caribbean.

                  The thing is I have not been able to find a price on any of their systems which tells me that are not cheap.
                  The answer is.

                  Our mission is to provide reliable and affordable green energy with as little fuss as possible. The current price of our WindStax 20 is US $14,900. The WindStax 40 is $29,900. Contact us for accessories, upgrades, delivery, and installation pricing.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Willy T View Post
                    The answer is.
                    I was talking about not finding prices for the "SolarMill" product but knowing what WindStax cost makes it easier to calculate ROI. Thanks

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Willy T View Post
                      The answer is.
                      VWAT type? This is pure BS! Show a rating the official org beford posting this tripe!
                      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by russ View Post
                        VWAT type? This is pure BS! Show a rating the official org beford posting this tripe!
                        There are two models. According to their FAQ list the Windstax 20 can produce 1100w base, 1800w rated and 3600w max for $14,900.

                        The 40 unit can produce 2100w base, 4000w rated and 7500w max for $29,900.

                        Pretty costly to me.

                        They also mention some kind of battery to store energy.
                        Last edited by SunEagle; 04-08-2015, 01:17 PM. Reason: added last sentence

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                        • #13
                          Here's the article about WindStax and Aquion partnering up. Makes sense, they are both in Pittsburg. http://www.prunderground.com/windsta...stems/0052459/

                          But I agree wholeheartedly with Russ, without independent certification from someone like Small Wind Certification Council, I don't believe a word of what they say.
                          Solar Queen
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Amy@altE View Post
                            Here's the article about WindStax and Aquion partnering up. Makes sense, they are both in Pittsburg. http://www.prunderground.com/windsta...stems/0052459/

                            But I agree wholeheartedly with Russ, without independent certification from someone like Small Wind Certification Council, I don't believe a word of what they say.
                            If Aquion is looking for a market to sell their batteries it makes sense to couple up with a company that builds RE generators for remote locations.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SunEagle View Post
                              If Aquion is looking for a market to sell their batteries it makes sense to couple up with a company that builds RE generators for remote locations.
                              It's Like being a Star Trek fan. Just waiting on The Next Generation

                              of 'Salt' batteries later this year (they claim).

                              Wonder how 'TopCat' in Hawaii is doing with his 9 bedroom
                              Aquion Energy
                              Battery experiment.

                              Is it true that you NEVER have to fool with or add to the electrolyte ?

                              Do they need an old Aquion Shill in the Islands ?

                              I wore Amy's place out getting my education.

                              Bill Blake

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