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  • MikeSolar
    Solar Fanatic
    • May 2012
    • 252

    250w panel for my truck

    I've got various 250w panels with Voc of 37V. I want to put one on my truck to charge 2 batteries (12V) but I am having trouble finding a MPPT controller that will take the input voltage. Does anyone know of something?
  • russ
    Solar Fanatic
    • Jul 2009
    • 10360

    #2
    I am no help with your quest but welcome back! Haven't seen you for a while.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    • MikeSolar
      Solar Fanatic
      • May 2012
      • 252

      #3
      Originally posted by russ
      I am no help with your quest but welcome back! Haven't seen you for a while.
      haha, thanks Russ. I've been busy developing a retrofit thermal HX to fit on a PV panel. It takes a lot of time so not much time for the interweb. Maybe some unsuspecting dude will be recipient of my rants again, LOL.

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      • GridGrants
        Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 29

        #4
        Originally posted by MikeSolar
        I've got various 250w panels with Voc of 37V. I want to put one on my truck to charge 2 batteries (12V) but I am having trouble finding a MPPT controller that will take the input voltage. Does anyone know of something?
        Around $200 retail:

        Morningstar Corporation
        SunSaver MPPT
        15A Charge Controller
        SS-MPPT-15L

        Converts 36V or 24V PV Arrays
        Provides a means to use up to a 36V PV array to charge either a 24V or 12V battery.

        Less expensive than other MPPT controllers and is affordable in smaller PV systems up to 400W

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        • MikeSolar
          Solar Fanatic
          • May 2012
          • 252

          #5
          Originally posted by GridGrants
          Around $200 retail:

          Morningstar Corporation
          SunSaver MPPT
          15A Charge Controller
          SS-MPPT-15L

          Converts 36V or 24V PV Arrays
          Provides a means to use up to a 36V PV array to charge either a 24V or 12V battery.

          Less expensive than other MPPT controllers and is affordable in smaller PV systems up to 400W
          That's exactly what I needed. Thanks, dude

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          • MikeSolar
            Solar Fanatic
            • May 2012
            • 252

            #6
            Little update to this older thread, I realized I have room for 2 of them 250w, 37v jobbies so now I am looking for the same type of controller that can handle a bit more current (18A or there abouts). How about the ProStar PS30? I know it is not MPPT but....

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            • inetdog
              Super Moderator
              • May 2012
              • 9909

              #7
              Originally posted by MikeSolar
              Little update to this older thread, I realized I have room for 2 of them 250w, 37v jobbies so now I am looking for the same type of controller that can handle a bit more current (18A or there abouts). How about the ProStar PS30? I know it is not MPPT but....
              With a 37V panel and 12V batteries you have no choice but to go MPPT. Otherwise you will be throwing away 2/3 of your panel power and would be better off (in terms of battery charging power) with just one panel and a cheaper MPPT controller than two panels and PWM controller.
              SunnyBoy 3000 US, 18 BP Solar 175B panels.

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              • MikeSolar
                Solar Fanatic
                • May 2012
                • 252

                #8
                Originally posted by inetdog
                With a 37V panel and 12V batteries you have no choice but to go MPPT. Otherwise you will be throwing away 2/3 of your panel power and would be better off (in terms of battery charging power) with just one panel and a cheaper MPPT controller than two panels and PWM controller.
                Bummer, they are a lot more money. What would you recommend? With 1 panel it is easy but needing 18A......

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                • paulcheung
                  Solar Fanatic
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 965

                  #9
                  The Tracer 4210N MPPT charge controller sell for around US$250 on Amazon with the display. It will give you 40 amps and 100 volt maximum input. it work with 12 or 24 volt battery system.

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                  • MikeSolar
                    Solar Fanatic
                    • May 2012
                    • 252

                    #10
                    Originally posted by paulcheung
                    The Tracer 4210N MPPT charge controller sell for around US$250 on Amazon with the display. It will give you 40 amps and 100 volt maximum input. it work with 12 or 24 volt battery system.
                    AliExpress has an even better price, including shipping to Toronto. I wouldn't buy it for a customer but for myself, I might. Note that the weight is half of a US built product so what does that tell you. If I buy it I will add heat sinks to it before start up just to make sure.

                    Update.......The Tracer output is only 20A @12Vdc which is not great with 500w of input. The Tristar is 30A for not that much more money and 40A for a bit more again. Think I'll got with the Morningstar.

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                    • ILFE
                      Solar Fanatic
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 236

                      #11
                      How about a Midnite Solar - "Kid" controller?
                      Paul

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                      • paulcheung
                        Solar Fanatic
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 965

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MikeSolar
                        AliExpress has an even better price, including shipping to Toronto. I wouldn't buy it for a customer but for myself, I might. Note that the weight is half of a US built product so what does that tell you. If I buy it I will add heat sinks to it before start up just to make sure.

                        Update.......The Tracer output is only 20A @12Vdc which is not great with 500w of input. The Tristar is 30A for not that much more money and 40A for a bit more again. Think I'll got with the Morningstar.
                        The Tracer 4210N is 40 amps MPPT charge controller with 500 watts 12 volt and 1000 watts 24volt capacity. It does not run hot and it have a good size heat sink on the back of the unit.

                        The price is 1/3 of the US built so I don't know why are you complain about the weight. You get what you pay for. I use it for a few months and it work without any problem. I have change mine to the OUTBACK FM60 because I add another panel to the system and the Tracer has the maximum input 100 volt, my 3 panel VOC is over that.

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                        • boostinsteve
                          Member
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 36

                          #13
                          I used the tracer 3215rn for over a year with no issues. It worked well for the purpose. Very little programming capability. It goes into bulk and absorb every day whether it is needed or not. There are no voltage adjustments that can be made, but a basic charger you don't have to do anything with, it works. I switched to the midnite classic because I want to step up my array, and probably move up to a 48v bank.

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                          • MikeSolar
                            Solar Fanatic
                            • May 2012
                            • 252

                            #14
                            Originally posted by paulcheung
                            The Tracer 4210N is 40 amps MPPT charge controller with 500 watts 12 volt and 1000 watts 24volt capacity. It does not run hot and it have a good size heat sink on the back of the unit.

                            The price is 1/3 of the US built so I don't know why are you complain about the weight. You get what you pay for. I use it for a few months and it work without any problem. I have change mine to the OUTBACK FM60 because I add another panel to the system and the Tracer has the maximum input 100 volt, my 3 panel VOC is over that.
                            Rated charge current is 40A but rated discharge current is only 20A. I am assuming that this means the unit will accept 40A from the panels but I can get only 20A@12vdc into the battery. Not so great if this is true.

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                            • MikeSolar
                              Solar Fanatic
                              • May 2012
                              • 252

                              #15
                              Originally posted by livingincebu
                              How about a Midnite Solar - "Kid" controller?
                              I looked at the "kid" and its max input is below 500w (466w) according to the sizing program. I'm not sure how this small difference (56w) will be, and I am willing to look at it if someone who knows this controller says it is OK.

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